MapTool 1.3 Development Build 15

Cweord · Post by **Cweord** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:24 am

I have an old dell Inspiron 7000 for a loptop, with the 1600x1200 ultra clear monitor, it has never been a problem.

My new monitor is a Dell 24" 2407 which when I looked was one of the cheaper 24" screens with some of the best reviews (and is beautiful).

Post by **dorpond** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:12 am

dorpond wrote: Here is a screeny of mine:

At home, I looked at this with my CRT (Cybervision C92) and the FOW icons are still hard to see. I notice that if I am real close to the screen, I can make them out but if I am further away (Think HDTV/Prjection), they look like black circle buttons with no detail.

Perhaps that is the key - step back - if they can still be made out OK, then they are good. We have to make sure they work well at a distance.

snikle · Post by **snikle** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:52 am

Well I sent new ones to trevor, so up to the man now.

I still say ya'll need your eyes looked at though. I can still make these out without any strain at about 5' from my LCD, not as clear as the white ones, but the new ones are white, so they should fix all the problem people are having.

Sir Flak · Post by **Sir Flak** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:50 am

A thought on the buttons.

I'm not sure why were doing different color schemes for buttons that do the same thing but on a different layer.

For instance: The draw square button. It drwas a square wheather your in pencil, fog, or sight layers. Why make one black one blue and one yellow or whatever. It does the same thing. It you picked one color scheme just use that for all of them and you save yourself the head ache of thinking up three that look equally good.

I guess my thought is that if the buttons do the same thing its ok for them to look the same. The user just looks and says oh I know what that will do i just used it in the pencil mode.

The only disadvantage would be its trickier to see what mode your in at a glance for a new user. I think there are other ways to indicate that though.

snikle · Post by **snikle** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:22 am

Yeah that was the only reason I went with different colors, to help people quickly see at a glance what tool they were using.

Post by **trevor** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:27 am

Hey snik, what if we made the icons have the blue background be 50% translucent when not selected, and full color when selected ? Might make the selected tool more obvious

RPMiller · Post by **RPMiller** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:41 am

snikle wrote:Well I sent new ones to trevor, so up to the man now.

I still say ya'll need your eyes looked at though. I can still make these out without any strain at about 5' from my LCD, not as clear as the white ones, but the new ones are white, so they should fix all the problem people are having.

Yup they look just fine even from a distance for me as well. Maybe it is because I had Lasik a few years back?

RPMiller · Post by **RPMiller** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:42 am

trevor wrote:Hey snik, what if we made the icons have the blue background be 50% translucent when not selected, and full color when selected ? Might make the selected tool more obvious

That might just work! I like that idea. Sort of like having the buttons illuminated from within to give the impression of On/Off.

Full Bleed · Post by **Full Bleed** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:16 am

trevor wrote:Hey snik, what if we made the icons have the blue background be 50% translucent when not selected, and full color when selected ? Might make the selected tool more obvious

I think this would probably help a lot.

(But I still think it would be best if you gave us a way to put in custom buttons so that some basic skinning could begin to evolve.)

RPMiller · Post by **RPMiller** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:19 pm

I just discovered I have a monitor testing application. It is a bit old, and doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but if anyone can get any use out of it please feel free. It is freeware that I found I don't know when/where.

http://www.citlink.net/~rpmiller1/Monitester.zip