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 Post subject: Keeping up with modern techniques
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:22 am 
I am sure this has been said many times. But to keep current and modern -- there is a need for webcam and voice capabilities. Using 3rd party applications just doesn't have the credibility to compliment this awesome program. RPTools is definitely better than Fantasy Grounds, rolld20 and other VTT's. I have tested them all and really this program is the leader when it comes to simplicity and reliability. The only thing that makes it a dust-collector is that it is not keeping up with modern/contemporary needs. Everybody these days uses voice and video instead of text. Text is like 2000's , this is coming up to 2017, it would be a great roll-out for the new year to have integrated voice and webcam [even including the ability to play sync'd youtube videos to all players for pre-recorded in-game needs.] So this would be the best way to stay current.

I am positive that having webcam/video/voice options built into the program will bring a large amount of interest from those who are currently using fantasy grounds -- and will bring them over here.

Also I own a company that does web-design and web marketing/promotions. I do not work too much anymore, mostly just hang around at home and go on vacations -- but if you add these options I will put a team together to completely re-do the web-site and make it look FIERCE! [For free]

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 Post subject: Re: Keeping up with modern techniques
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:33 am 
Personally I am not at all convinced.

I see voip as one of those cloud services you might be considered a fool to try and provide yourself. It would take a lot of effort to implement and more to support, then most people would end up using their own favourite anyway.

That's my opinion, anyway ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Keeping up with modern techniques
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:26 am 
captainsinith wrote:
I am positive that having webcam/video/voice options built into the program will bring a large amount of interest from those who are currently using fantasy grounds -- and will bring them over here.

Going to have to disagree.

Most people using FG use it because it has an attractive interface and closely supports one (or more) of the game systems they use (without needing to know any programming themselves.) Their own forums have threads like this where people ask for a VC option built in and they are always shot down and pointed in the direction of many other existing options (Skype, Google Hangouts, Oovoo, etc.)

This has been debated many times, and back before there were half a dozen great free options it held some weight. But now I see no reason to waste development time trying to do something that others already do better than MT could ever hope to.

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 Post subject: Re: Keeping up with modern techniques
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:31 pm 
Full Bleed wrote:
captainsinith wrote:
I am positive that having webcam/video/voice options built into the program will bring a large amount of interest from those who are currently using fantasy grounds -- and will bring them over here.

Going to have to disagree.

Going to have to agree with the disagreeing.


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 Post subject: Re: Keeping up with modern techniques
PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:48 pm 
I'm not a programmer, but I know enough about it to know that adding voice and video to an app, and I suspect especially a Java app, is not a fast or simple thing. And it's different from the other stuff that MapTool does, making it even more of an investment of resources, which are very limited in any open source volunteer project.

And this isn't something that can be half done, then improved upon later. If it doesn't do pretty much everything people want from first release - everything that Skype, or whatever other people are using (GoToMeeting, in my case), does - then nobody will use it at all. And even if it improves later, everybody will already "know" it's substandard.

So the question is, what's the return on that investment? It's tempting to define that as "will it bring in enough new users to be worth the trouble," and I, personally, doubt it will. Existing users already have solutions for voice and video, and few of them are going to change. This will only matter to people who would use MapTool if it had voice/video, but don't because it doesn't. There don't seem to be a lot of those.

But it's also an issue of "would this provide enough benefit to the people who would program it to be worth the trouble," and I think that's more clearly "no," since they, too, already have other solutions.


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