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 Post subject: Group movement
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:08 am 
I build a tool for group movement.

Concept: you define a group token and add tokens to it. There relative position is saved. If you move the group token you can execute a macro "place" that moves all added tokens to their new position.

To use it you should impersonate the group token. To set the tokens in the group select them and execute the "set" macro.

You can rotate by 90° around the group token.

WIP: implemented but not working right is the rotation by a free angle.

Maybe someone has use for this.

Update: b3
  • Added load/save to save current formation and reload it.
  • Added define custom/cst formation. You define a formation by
    placing tokens and can use this on any group.

Update: b2
  • There is a set of predefined formations. Click on the button, select a formation and the tokens of the impersonated group token will be placed in that formation.
  • tighten macro implemented. Fixed a bug in the spread macro, new positions are now saved.
  • :-( free rotate still not working correctly
  • :-( formations do not work correctly in gridless maps


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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:30 am 
Pretty cool! I can definitely use this.

It seems to lose the group if Spread is used. Is this intentional?

Any chance of a function that's the reverse of Spread? ("FormRanks" or "TightenUp")

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:40 am 
Ah ... I forgot about spread. Its definitly WIP. It just multiplies the distance offsets by 2. could be reversed the same way but I'm not sure how useful that would be (or 'spread' is at all)

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:19 pm 
I see a lot of potential for spread and it's reverse.

A group tactically or in military formation might spread out if they become targeted with area effect damage. (Fireball spell, artillery shells, etc.)

A group might tighten up their formation to form a shield wall as protection against arrows.

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:36 pm 
Yes, the functionality isnt useless. But my implementation might be. I have ideas for more complex formation management. Not very much developed yet...

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:14 am 
update: build 2, see OP

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:22 pm 
The fact you're starting to attempt this spells good news.
The whole idea is very useful for both RPGs and wargames alike. Hope to see more of it and I hope this gets others thinking about groups and stuff more too. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:26 pm 
Cool.

The formation selection is quite nice.

Would it be possible to "record" a formation?

For instance, if I had a group of tokens arranged as I do in the picture, would it be possible to click a "Record" macro that would allow the group to be placed in that formation? (Not necessarily added to the Formation list.)
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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:40 pm 
Should be possible.

Do you want to restore the formation for the same group (each tokens gets exact the same position) or assign the saved formation to any group? What happens if the token number doesnt match?

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:30 pm 
I was just thinking of saving that particular group of those specific tokens. (Each token gets exactly the same position.)

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:45 am 
update: build 3, see OP

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:34 pm 
Neat idea... this should probably get moved to the "Drop-In Resources" forum!

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:54 pm 
lmarkus001 wrote:
Neat idea... this should probably get moved to the "Drop-In Resources" forum!

Thanks for the suggestion; done.

I can't look at everything (such as this code) so I rely on others to point this kind of thing out to me. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:11 pm 
Awesome! I wish I'd found your latest build before I ran my game on Saturday. My players are facing demons and mobs of demon possessed common folk. Those guys aren't big on orderly formations, so saving the custom formation will be a big help. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Group movement
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:23 pm 
Is there anyway to use this between two different maps? Meaning take the group leader and move to Map B, and then call all the group from Map A to Map B?

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