Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:03 am
It works now for me now... maybe just some temporary problem
One thing I'm wondering after adding a bunch of characters is if you can change the surges? A lot of the characters are not getting the right amount of surges they should have (according to the character-maker on the D&D-homepage).
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:18 pm
Running into an odd issue with initiative. For some tokens it works fine, for others it provides a decimal value in addition.
example: 3 players roll initiative and get 14, 21, and 8. Three other players roll and it gives 11.04, 15.07, and 23.05.
Any ideas what is causing that?
EDIT: I have noticed one thing, is that the decimal value is the bonus to their initiative, although it is calculated into the number before the decimal. I guess my question becomes why is it included in a decimal format as well, in case of a tie or something?
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:45 pm
It is in case of a tie, yes. Why some have it and some don't, I don't know. I think I had to change some code to make it work and maybe it was updated to automatically include that later.
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:24 am
I'd just like to, once again, thank DN and his contributors for such a fantastic framework, and the forumgoers for helping me out when I needed it. I've been running this framework for years now, and couldn't be happier with it.
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Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:58 pm
Hello, and thanks for the shiny framework. I've been getting to know it, and it's fantastic.
First, I want to check that I'm doing something right: a healing power that grants both temp and regular HP has to simply do two "attacks" which are then set to "none" and then, in the first one you put the regular and in the second attack you put the temporary HP. These attack results then produce clickable links in the dialogue that open up a character's healing/damage dialogue (which is prepopulated). Is this the most efficient way of doing this? Is there any way to combine both temp and regular HP into one clickable chat link?
Second, is there any way for my warforged not to accumulate failed death saves? A racial feature allows them to take the better of a regular death save or 10, and I'm wondering if there's a way to not die three times. I do want to roll, because (with Resilient Focus) I have 3/20 of just triggering a surge and standing up again (and our evil DM does knock me down frequently). Is there any way to disable the failed death save count for just my character?
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:11 pm
Also, how much work is it to implement automatic condition expiration?
As levels go up, conditions become very numerous, and it would be nice if, at the end of each turn, a dialogue would display the conditions set to expire at the end of that turn (with the option of extending each condition's duration - leaving control firmly in the hand of the user).
When I used to track initiative and conditions with pen and paper, instead of noting that at the beginning or end of someone's turn such a condition would expire, I would just note the end of the initiative count at the end of which it died (since you can't extend the duration of conditions by delaying, this works very well). So, if Larry had a condition that expired at the beginning of Sally's turn, and Sally had initiative 12, Next to Larry on the initiative sheet I just noted [condition](13) - to indicate that when init 12 rolled around, the condition was over. Could something like this be implemented?
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:39 pm
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(and our evil DM does knock me down frequently)
That would be me and guilty as charged.
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Also, how much work is it to implement automatic condition expiration?
As levels go up, conditions become very numerous, and it would be nice if, at the end of each turn, a dialogue would display the conditions set to expire at the end of that turn (with the option of extending each condition's duration - leaving control firmly in the hand of the user).
When I used to track initiative and conditions with pen and paper, instead of noting that at the beginning or end of someone's turn such a condition would expire, I would just note the end of the initiative count at the end of which it died (since you can't extend the duration of conditions by delaying, this works very well). So, if Larry had a condition that expired at the beginning of Sally's turn, and Sally had initiative 12, Next to Larry on the initiative sheet I just noted [condition](13) - to indicate that when init 12 rolled around, the condition was over. Could something like this be implemented?
I've read a few posts in this thread regarding conditions and it seems that condition duration is kept to a minimum so as to keep control with the DM and not the framework itself.
1. No, the conditions are not cleared automatically, you have to do that manually. But it is possible to implement this behavior through a custom initiative script. However, the automation in this FW is intentionally kept low, because in the end it is the DM and not the FW that should run the game. For example it could be that some state would end, but you as the DM have some effect that makes it stay. In this case the script would not behave correctly. That said, I have written a custom set of initiative macros for sorting initiative (with automatic tie breaking) and for advancing initiative. This script checks for all conditions and ongoing damage and tells you when people have to make a saving throw, when they take ongoing damage, and when effects end. If you want I could provide that script to you.
Now I don't know how much of an authority he is on the subject so this may not actually be the case. I would agree with the sentiment that control should be with the DM. What interests me is a script that reminds you of when an effect expires so I'll be looking for that.
My only problem with the framework is as far as I can see is that there is no way to allow people to put effects on tokens they don't own, this may also be by design for similar reasons(say a monster cannot be dazed) but for me putting on conditions would be more annoying than taking them off. So is there a way to allow this without giving ownership of enemies to my PCs or at least without letting them see powers and defences and the like.
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:34 pm
MadJoker wrote:
I have written a custom set of initiative macros for sorting initiative (with automatic tie breaking) and for advancing initiative. This script checks for all conditions and ongoing damage and tells you when people have to make a saving throw, when they take ongoing damage, and when effects end. If you want I could provide that script to you.
Yep, that's exactly what I was talking about. I hope he posts his script.
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:47 pm
Ferghis wrote:
MadJoker wrote:
I have written a custom set of initiative macros for sorting initiative (with automatic tie breaking) and for advancing initiative. This script checks for all conditions and ongoing damage and tells you when people have to make a saving throw, when they take ongoing damage, and when effects end. If you want I could provide that script to you.
Yep, that's exactly what I was talking about. I hope he posts his script.
Hm, I have not checked this thread for far too long. Maybe the scripts can still be of help to someone.
Since my last post I have also added a turn timer functionality. So, first you need to add
Code:
enableTurnTimer:0 CurrentTimer printInitiative:0
to the property list of the Lib:Information token. If enableTurnTimer is 0 only the GM will get a message telling him how long a turn took (only for player characters). If you set it to 1 all players can see the time. CurrentTimer is just an internal variable used by the scripts. Lastly, printInitiative prints a custom "has received initiative" message together with the other info. This is an alternative to the standard message from MT. Now to the scripts.
I have these three scripts sitting in my Campaign frame. The usage should be self explanatory.
Then you need to add this script to the Lib:Execute token.
Code:
<!-- arg(0) - token that conditions should checked on arg(1) - which conditions to check (0 - End of Turn, 1 - Start of Turn, 2 - End of Encounter) --> [H: assert(argCount() == 2,"<br>in macro <b>checkInitiativeConditions</b><br>Invalid number of arguments " + argCount() + ", expected 2")]
Post subject: Re: DN's D&D4e Character Sheet Framework
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:16 am
@MadJoker I would very much like to try your scripts. But I'm having some adding the timer. I'm not sure where and how I am supposed to enter the timer functionality.
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