ah. OK thanks. I was under the misguided impression that there were tricks one could pull off in photoshop that let you create those textures from scratch with little artistic ability and mostly technology and methodology.
I now know that I should be building my own starting with borrowed goods, or photos. not trying to figure out how to draw them myself.
Those textures JDale used where just what he used for samples. I never use photographs, since I create all my textures with either Photoshop of other drawing progs. And yes, Photoshop has an enormous amount of filters you can use.
Here is a tip: generate a photoshop image at 128x128, 156x156, 512x512, etc using all kinds of filters and it will tile