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Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:21 pm
by Jagged
Hi,

The syntax would be [1d6hk-1] you can test it by doing [1d6hk-1] [1hm] for a fixed multiplier.
That will result in a possible value of 0 but I am reliably informed thats the correct calculation ;)
See this thread in the Hero Forums

Syntax for a typical killing attack would be something like [1d6hk] [1d6hm-1]
A multiplier of [1d6hm-1] will never result in a value less than 1, as per the rules.

I've attached my latest version. Its pretty much the same except that the regular expressions for the parsing is a bit neater. As above you need to unzip the file then rename the "dicelib-1.0.b20.jar" file to match the DiceLib.jar in your distribution, probably "dicelib-1.0.b18.jar"

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:07 pm
by Velocinox
Jagged wrote:Hi,

The syntax would be [1d6hk-1] you can test it by doing [1d6hk-1] [1hm] for a fixed multiplier.
That will result in a possible value of 0 but I am reliably informed thats the correct calculation ;)
See this thread in the Hero Forums


Actually, the official word from Steve Long is 1d6-1 damage rolls have a minimum value of 1. In fact, 3d6-1 bottoms out at 3, not 2. Nor, is there any official restriction on using x+1d6-1 instead of x1/2d6. He states it is simply the prevading GM choice. Officially the option should remain.

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:22 am
by Jagged
Okay. On the one hand its cool you got an official answer. On the other hand, I have to modify my code! Bummer ;)

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:29 pm
by Velocinox
Jagged wrote:Okay. On the one hand its cool you got an official answer. On the other hand, I have to modify my code! Bummer ;)


Hehe, I apologize, I play mostly hero level and so need the changes made. To that end if I don't convince you to do it, I will have to... You can certainly see my dilemma. :)

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:56 am
by Jagged
Not a problem. I wanted a definitive answer to make sure the work I've done is useful to all Hero System players.

The d6-1 minimum value ruling is straight forward, but I am still considering the best approach for the 1/2 die to d6-1 option. I suspect what I will do is add a new flag to the function but expose that to "Chat" via a second notation.

I should get time to look at it this weekend.

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:44 pm
by Jagged
Velocinox wrote:Hehe, I apologize, I play mostly hero level and so need the changes made. To that end if I don't convince you to do it, I will have to... You can certainly see my dilemma. :)


Hi. I'm closing this thread off and have posted My latest update in the User Creations Section. You will see I've added a d6-1 option so hopefully that will work for you. :)

Re: Suggested Hero Dice Update

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:48 am
by Jagged
Can I ask the Powers-That-Be what are the chances of getting this incorporated into 1.3?

Previously I assumed 1.3 was closed but that was back in Build 70. Since we have a release 88 thats broken I assume we are going to have at least one more 1.3 build?

There were objections at the start of this thread about including this functionality but I think that was because of the mistaken belief that this changed global behaviour. This only changes the specific "Hero System" dice functions and even there existing macros will work exactly as they do today. I would also add that this update has the support of the one forum poster making Hero System Frameworks.